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This is a must see!!
Public school teacher brow beats student for being a McCain supporter.
(Just get past the first 20 seconds because it is in the finnish language because the american network news DID NOT show this in our news stations!... the rest is in english, but it has Finnish subtitles.)
Unbelievable.....
"Free" public education...I guess you get what you pay for! Complete INDOCTRINATION!!
I guess her political stance was so "good" they were able to overlook her comments about "Jesus??"
Go figure!
Go figure!
This kind of makes me miss my homeschooling days...
I am amazed this woman still has her job and has had no consequences.
I guess the ACLU might slap her hand for saying JESUS??
It would almost be funny if it weren't so tragic...
Dawn
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This is kind of what happened to my 4th grader, except it was mostly fellow students doing the "browbeating" (and physical beating) while the teachers looked the other way. Needless to say, he is now homeschooled...
It made me sick when she told that one girl her dad was going to stay in Iraq another 100 years if McCain was elected...
Aunt Dawn that lady was just SO wrong to say that to the little girl who's daddy is in the military!
That teacher should get into SOME type of trouble for saying things like that!
~Shannon~
hhhmmm.... I wonder if one could ever enact a "law" to protect THE SEPARATION OF STATE AND EDUCATION!
For years MISinformed people have cried out about the "separation of church and state" without a FULL understanding of the history of where that phrase came from. No where in our constitution will you find the phrase "separation of church and state" but liberals for time immortal have used that phrase, calling it a constitutional RIGHT-- to not have issues of faith in the public square, public schools, etc....
But in reality-- the phrase "wall of separation" was used by Jefferson when he wrote a letter to the Danbury Baptist Association assuring them, when they expressed their concern of the Government becoming overly involved in the affairs of their church. The term "wall of separation" was to assure the CHURCH that the WALL was to keep the government out of the church's affairs-- not the other way around as has been traditionally taught in schools!
When I was in school I was taught that "the separation of church and state" was to keep Christians and people of faith from interfering with the runnings of government and public affairs-- THAT IS SO WRONG!!
So if we go back to the original idea-- I wonder if there should NOW be a "wall of separation" within the public education system to BAN such obvious, personal bias, political bias in the class room.
This whole classroom scene was nauseating! The poor girl looked like she was about to burst into tears. The "teacher" was nowhere in the realm of EDUCATING this room of kids-- but was clearly indoctrinating them, was clearly pushing a one-sided agenda.
There was no way in the world a child who was a McCain supporter was going to have voiced their opinion and have not FELT the disdain of the "teachers" opinion.
When education = adherence to a prescribed political agenda; or we are told what we are to believe-- and we are no longer encouraged to THINK and REASON for ourselves; we are on a slippery slope---
...and as I look around me, even listening to my own kids talk sometimes, I hear a strange acceptance of what they have been told IN THE CLASSROOMS-- even when it boldly contradicts and flies in the face of what we have held as core convictions of faith and family beliefs FOREVER-- it seems their moral equilibrium compass has lost its ability to find NORTH.
Unfortunately, I have KNOWN that public schools have NOT been about EDUCATION in years-- but I had little choice when my illness hit its worst point and I was unable to continue to homeschool... but I had hoped that I had discipled my kids well enough to be able to STAND... now I dont know what to think.
This I do know...I have seen the schools influence my kids negatively far more than my kids have been able to influence their peers.
Were it not for the fact that I know this is the path God told us to walk, I would be second guessing every move I make right now!
Instead, I wonder if this is not the catalyst that will keep us communicating all the more, all the deeper, on these most dire of topics in these desperate times?
It does require us, as parents to keep our eyes wide open, alert and aware-- there are days I dont think I have the energy to keep it up... but God never promised us it would be easy. He only promised us it would be worth the effort to be faithful where we are planted!
So...who do we contact about getting a law about a separation of State & Education??
They just need to keep all that JUNK to themselves! LOL!
Dawn
Hey Dawn.
Thanks for posting that video clip. I agree with what you and the others have shared.
However, let's put ourselves in the teacher's position, and let's imagine that we're in some real conservative part of, say, Texas. We are strong McCain supporters, and so are most of the students in our class. What do we do when someone speaks up and says, "I support Barack Obama" or "I like Obama because he's going to bring change to our nation" or something like that? How would we respond?
I seriously wonder if the majority of Christians in our nation would have a friendly attitude towards those students. I seriously wonder whether political stances are growing to be more important in the average American Christian these days rather than the love of Jesus in and through us. Would we respond as strongly for McCain as that teacher did for Obama? Would we make the same type of comments against Obama confronting the students that support him like the teacher confronted the McCain supporters in her class? Do we really have Jesus's love for those who strongly disagree with us? I really wonder. And the first person that I would put through that test would be me myself. Could I stand up to that test, or would I fail to love those who disagree with me, and come across as a big Christian hypocrite?
The worst thing in this whole episode, the thing that upsets me the most, is NOT what this teacher did in the classroom. It's what she said in the interview afterwards. She did not repent for what she did, nor did she even ADMIT what she did. In fact, she says she did the absolute opposite! "I make sure I don't brow beat the students..." Yes, you did! That's what makes this episode doubly upsetting.
Thank God for the way you can communicate with us, Dawn. God continue to give you the strength and wisdom to communicate wisely.
With love,
Your friends in Brazil
J&K,
I completely understand where you are coming from!
I had to personally walk that road too...and it **IS** a HARD road to walk. I have a very close Christian friend who is an Obama supporter, an active member of my church, and as much as it boggled my mind to try and comprehend how my friend could integrate Obama's abortion policies with a Christian worldview, gave me more than one night of lost sleep, tossing and turning, fasting and praying!
My friend could categorize out and compartmentalize politics from faith, but I had a much harder time with that-- but at the end of day-- my friend was still very much my friend-- my sister in Christ, whom I would take a bullet for. Obama could never separate that bond of our friendship that was cemented in CHRIST.
No doubt we have entered into an "iron sharpens iron" exchange of ideas-- but never for the sake of controversy alone. But I never lose sight of that fact I am engaging this type of conversation with an ADULT-- not a child.
I believe the teacher crossed a line in that she was put in a place of an authority figure over these students. She has the power to pass or fail them. (I am not saying she would abuse that power, but with the tone she took with the children, there is no way they could have been assured of that!)
I believe that as teachers-- we are given a sacred trust when we are entrusted with the education of other people-- whether it be academic or spiritual/theological education. There are just certain lines we should never cross.
When one in authority crosses that line and abuses the trust that has been given them, it becomes a form of manipulation and deception.
In the academic realm, if a teacher manipulates and deceives a student-- the student is cheated out of a true education.
Is a spiritual or Christian environment, if our students are manipulated or deceived-- it is more sinister-- that is the beginnings of cult-like teachings to the likes of Jim Jones or David Koresh. (Of course those are the extreme cases--- but even the extreme cases start out with one small deception by a teacher.)
But back to your point-- I had to look long and hard at my own heart when dealing with my friend and trying to understand her support of Obama. (Trust me-- my "flesh" had some thoughts of it's own! But thank God for the Holy Spirit and self-control!)
I loved my friend far MORE than I had the desire to express my many opinions about her political views!!
I choose to love her in spite of the great gulf of difference that separates our political opinions. It does not mean we will never discuss politics-- we respect each other to much to just pretend the differences do not exist-- but our differences will not DEFINE our greater bond which is IN CHRIST.
I may be confused and scratch my head trying to figure this one out until Jesus comes... but I will never treat her with any less respect and love-- in fact she deserves it all the more because she is of the household of faith!
Her political views do NOT cause my faith to stumble at all. I am secure it what I believe. I am not tempted to sin or change my convictions because of her freedom to vote differently-- so people cannot use the Romans 14 "causing the weaker brother to stumble/sin" principle to apply to this situation... she is not putting me in that situation at all! But I will definitely spend many many nights over the next few years praying for Obama and the Body of Christ.... and if that is what this entire political drama has brought about for me personally-- can that really be a BAD thing?
Continual prayer for the President and the Body of Christ-- sounds like a WIN-WIN situation!
I just never would have imagined that it would have taken THIS SITUATION to bring me to my knees in INCREASED prayer... I guess we can never pray enough... pray without ceasing is something I am beginning to feel in my spirit!!
Love you guys!
Dawn
Well, looks like I get to do one of the Paul Harvey "rest of the story" comments. Not surprisingly, this happened here in my town...you know the home of the largest military post is perfect for such things to happen at. This of course made the news. This was done quite some time ago when a Swedish journalist came around and was taping in her class. They then told her to teach on the election, which was not something she would normally have been doing anyhow. I haven't watched the whole clip, but I do know in what they showed here that you can hear the journalist suddenly tell her to teach on this subject. The piece was cut apart nicely as with most of these pieces, but what it came down to is that there was the one comment made to the girl about her Father that she wished she hadn't said as soon as it was done. The news went into the home of the girl and had the teacher there to talk to them all about it. The girl that looks so upset told very clearly that she was about to cry, but not about the comment but already felt that way because she was so scared of being a part of the thing they were taping. She was perfectly fine as she told us about that day, but her teacher is beyond a bawling mess before they ever even get to her. She hates that she said anything to a child about her military Father and especially that it was something she would not want to ever have a child be told or a military member be told. She not only was able to say this stuff to the camera, but did so looking in the eyes of the girl and then her Father. As usual, she is going to be made out to be horrible and as a brow beater, but those around here that know her are sharing that it is a huge misconception about her teaching and that if it had been then there would have been upset parents galore, but there isn't. I hope that puts some peoples minds at ease, I know many people do brow beat the kids like that on a regular basis, but apparently not this teacher.
LOL, just went to watch it and see that they did even cut out the other parts before the election talk and where they told her to talk about it. I especially noticed that they even listed her in the wrong city, umm, even the wrong side of our state!
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